Lauren Goode: I don’t remember that.
Zoë Schiffer: I think he did.
Michael Calore: I don’t know why everyone is looking at me.
Lauren Goode: Yes. Mike, what’s your recommendation?
Michael Calore: Mine is actually a strange relationship to this unboxing we just had, because I want to recommend the condiments. So everyone has that thing that they like to put in their food. I have a friend who puts Jordanian za’atar on everything. I have a friend who loves Meyer lemon olive oil which is very expensive, $25 a bottle and she puts it in their breakfast every day. Maybe there is a chilisp crisp that someone…
Zoë Schiffer: Oh my gosh. I was just saying.
Michael Calore: That’s right, because chili crisps are about 20 bucks.
Zoë Schiffer: It is very expensive.
Michael Calore: It is very expensive. So just get them a yearly supply. You know they will use it. And it is completely considered. It shows that you care about them, that you understand their life well enough to know them well as a person and know how to make them happy. So yes, that…
Zoë Schiffer: That’s good.
Michael Calore: If you can’t decide, I don’t know how big it is. I don’t know if they have read this book. I don’t know if they would actually use this, find something that you know they like and that you know they will use.
Zoë Schiffer: That’s good. It’s great, because it’s hard to find for yourself. I keep facing this problem because my brother and mother are both cooks. So they’ll come home, they’ll give me these really expensive, for example, Momofuku Chili Crisp, and I’m like, “Well, I’m totally addicted to that. I need it in all my meals all the time.” And then I go buy it, and I’m like, “$18 for this little …” No, I can’t.
Lauren Goode: That’s actually, that’s my favorite topping. Momofuku Chili Crisp.
Zoë Schiffer: You can put it on everything.
Michael Calore: Have you tried Fly By Jing?
Lauren Goode: No.
Zoë Schiffer: Oh, and it’s really good. Sichuan chili.
Michael Calore: It’s surprising.
Zoë Schiffer: It’s really nice.
Lauren Goode: This is good. God, I feel like I literally recommended Snake Oil and everybody’s like, “Oh, Mike. Yeah. Thank you.” Now I’m hungry.
Michael Calore: Okay, that’s our show for today. We will be back in the new year. Thanks for listening Uncanny Valley. If you like what you heard today, be sure to follow our show and rate it on your favorite podcast app. If you would like to contact us with any questions, comments, or show suggestions, you can write to us at uncannyvalley@wired.com. Today’s show is hosted by Kyana Moghadam. Amar Lal at Macrosound mixed this episode. Jordan Bell is our executive producer. Condé Nast’s Head of Global Audio is Chris Bannon.
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